Episode 2

When Leadership Feels Messy

with  Bianca Juarez Olthoff

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Have you ever served in undesirable or unfulfilling ways? In this episode, Christine Caine dives into the depths of leadership development with church planter and pastor Bianca Juarez Olthoff. Join their passionate discussion as Bianca shares how leaders are developed in the trenches of obedience to God, not under the lights of a platform. Her wisdom and honesty will encourage you to keep leading, even when it’s hard.

Keep up with Bianca on Instagram @biancaolthoff and with her podcast, We’re Going There. And find her latest book, Grit Don’t Quit, everywhere books are sold.

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